G8MNY > TECH 12.06.25 09:45z 63 Lines 2108 Bytes #174 (0) @ WW BID : 34607_GB7CIP Read: GUEST Subj: Scope RF Trick Path: ED1ZAC<ED1ZAC<DB0APK<DK0WUE<K7EK<VE2PKT<VE3KPG<GB7CIP Sent: 250612/0931Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:34607 [Caterham Surrey GBR] From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO To : TECH@WW By G8MNY (Updated Apr 11) (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font) A few years ago at my local club we had demonstrated an impossible wooden transformer, that did all its should do! I recently got a 100MHz scope going & using it for demonstrations, I found quite a convincing RF trick, that even experienced hams are initially fooled by. ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³RF SIGNAL³ ³SCOPE³ Display ³/~\ ³ ³GENERATORÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄ´ ³ ³ \_/³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ BNCÀÄÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ T Connecting this arrangement, no one is surprised the scope displays a sine wave. But adding a short length of coax teed to the scope... TEED COAX ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ ÚÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³RF SIGNAL³ ³ ³SCOPE³ Display ³______³ ³GENERATORÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄ´ ³ ³ ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ BNCÀÄÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ T Making the teed coax quite a short length & the pure OSC frequency set to make that an electrical 1/4 wave. The scope displays nothing! Many wrongly think the teed coax must be a DC short! But shorting the end of the coax out, the sine wave magically reappears! SHORTED COAX ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ ÚÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³RF SIGNAL³ ³ ³SCOPE³ Display ³/~\ ³ ³GENERATORÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄ´ ³ ³ \_/³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ BNCÀÄÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ T This is the opposite to intuition & many are confused as to what is going on. Only when the frequency of around 70MHz (for my short coax) is noted, does the penny drop! USES This of course is a very usefull method of measuring the velocity factor of a cable (0.6 to 0.8 the speed of light) as well as the losses. Only low a loss cable will produce a good nul, & of course a good sine wave oscillator! See my Tech bul on "Tuned Circuit Scope Demo", "Spectrum Harmonic Demo circuit" "Oscilloscopes". Why Don't U send an interesting bul? 73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
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