G8MNY > TECH 19.04.25 08:30z 64 Lines 2818 Bytes #180 (0) @ WW BID : 30613_GB7CIP Read: GUEST Subj: FT290/690/790 mk1 PLL fault Path: ED1ZAC<ED1ZAC<GB7CIP Sent: 250419/0823Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:30613 [Caterham Surrey GBR] From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO To : TECH@WW By G8MNY (New Nov 09) (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font) ________________________________________ ³ _ ÚÄÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ /~\ ³ ³ (_) ³====³ ³ 4.5000 ³ "" "" \./ ³ ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÙ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ |__| |__| ³ ³ ./"~"\. |__| |__| /~~\ ³ ³ /~\ /~\ | | |__| |__| | |³ ³ \./ \./ `\._./' |__| [__] \../ ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ The fault symptoms on one of my FT290 are impulsive noise on FM that kills Rx packets & it is not so noticeble on SSB until the fault is realy bad. Turning the rig off & on fixes it for a while (usually days). I have a simular fault before years ago, but I don't know what was done to fix it. FAULTING SAGA Tuning into a beacon & testing in SSB, it look like the 1uF ( ³±±³ ) C34 in the PLL filter was breaking down, warming or cooling that area changes the fault (OK cold & hot, bad at room temp!), but changing the capacitor (connections burried under soldered in PCB underside screen cover) has no effect. :-( PLL Box ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ [ù] D [ù]³[ù] ³ +5V ³ D c³(+) ³inter- ÚÄÄÄ¿ ÚÄÄÄÁÄÄ¿ ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ *:³~³: ³(+) D³polation ³VCOÃÄ´>Ä´PLL ICÃÄXtal ³ o(-)³³±±³:³ ³: ³ Û³ ÀÄÂÄÙ ÀÄÂÄÂÂÂÙ ³ ³ D :³ ³:ܳ ß³X 10.7 DCÀÄÂ<ÃÂÄÄÄÙ DATA ³ 0 ³D :³_³:Û³ [ù] ³ MHz ÀCRÙ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÙ VCO X Fo 5.76MHz Further investigating found the PLL IC MN6145(uPD21819C) itself seemed to be the culprit as heating/cooling caused the fault to change. re-soldering up all 18 pins had no effect. Connecting a 10:1 scope probe to local Xtal Pin 2 & 3, or the buffered osc drive Pin 11 had no effect, so it was not RF levels that were low. But putting the probe on the IC Pin 1 (+5V), I found caused the PLL noise to increase, as this is decoupled with 2 caps I was supprised. So I concluded the 10uF (c) C55 may be low in value, & as the it was difficult to remove I put in a small 2u2 on the track side on pin 1 directly. This solved the probe noise effect & made the hot & cold effect on the IC less apparent, but still there! I then tried an additional voltage drop diode (5.6V is fed via a diode post (*) to this IC for 5V) in series with the IC supply diode giving it only 4.28V, this worked OK & I can't reproduce the fault thermally now. Result, my ageing IC does not like the supply volts, & becomes unstable at a specific temperature range. Changing the +5V to 4.2V has fixed this. See my Tech bul on "CW/SSB Rig Frequency" & also "FT290/690/790 DC Power mod" Why Don't U send an interesting bul? 73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
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