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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: tracking Fox-1Cliff (Alan)
   2. Re: Has anyone heard the Exceed Satellite? (Fernando Ramirez)
   3. Re: Has anyone heard the Exceed Satellite? (Burns Fisher)
   4. Re: FoxTelem Crashes coping Fox1 Cliff (Burns Fisher)
   5. Re: tracking Fox-1Cliff (Dinesh Cyanam, AB3DC)
   6. Requesting Skeds (M Thomas)
   7. Re: Requesting Skeds (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
   8. Any update on AO-85? (Hans BX2ABT)
   9. Decoding the new AX.25 packet satellites (Loren M. Lang)
  10. Re: Any update on AO-85? (Burns Fisher)
  11. Re: Any update on AO-85? (Loren M. Lang)
  12. Re: Any update on AO-85? (Burns Fisher)
  13. Re: Has anyone heard the Exceed Satellite? (Jerry Buxton)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:15:26 -0600
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Joe Puma'" <kd2nfc@?????.???>,	<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] tracking Fox-1Cliff
Message-ID: <000001d48cdf$a52889c0$ef799d40$@?????.???>
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<So Ashhar bird is called Fox-1Cliff correct?

No.  It is Exseedsat.  Whatever program you use, you will need the Keps for
it.  So far, we do not have objects for all the satellites deployed, and few
of those have been more than tentatively identified.  As they are
identified, they will be added to the AMSAT and other sources.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


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<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Joe
<Puma
<Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 09:45 AM
<To: amsat-bb@?????.???
<Subject: [amsat-bb] tracking Fox-1Cliff
<
<So Ashhar bird is called Fox-1Cliff correct?
<
<Can it be tracked in Orbitron? I suppose we need keplar data of the bird.
The
<program has a file for cubesats but I don't see the bird. I see other like
<funcube Ao-73. How are we all tracking Ashhars bird?
<
<I already have Foxtelem
<
<
<Joe
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 14:18:25 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
To: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Has anyone heard the Exceed Satellite?
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8hsXWh8+j9S-4P43GB8SR3DTB28ZMFOEQhiAZHRCAjWLw@????.?????.???>
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I've listened for the past couple of nights and only heard JY1-SAT, ITASAT,
AO-95 and MOVE-II around those frequencies. Nothing heard from Exceed on
145.900 MHz.

73
Fernando, NP4JV
DM41mi, Arizona

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018, 1:48 PM Loren M. Lang <penguin359@?????.??? wrote:

> After several passes, I still have not heard the Exceed satellite
> coordinated for 145.900 MHz. Has anyone else heard it or has it changed
> frequencies?
>
> - Loren
> K7IW
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:26:53 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Has anyone heard the Exceed Satellite?
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxWDy7jzoAaxLRXTyy-645y08wLpR=U6ssps+-s6Ya+Lrg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I reported to Nitin that I had seen it (was watching a display while trying
to get Fox-1Cliff telemetry).  But I think I was mistaken looking at the
wrong freq.  I did not see it at all this morning.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:18 PM Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
wrote:

> I've listened for the past couple of nights and only heard JY1-SAT, ITASAT,
> AO-95 and MOVE-II around those frequencies. Nothing heard from Exceed on
> 145.900 MHz.
>
> 73
> Fernando, NP4JV
> DM41mi, Arizona
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018, 1:48 PM Loren M. Lang <penguin359@?????.??? wrote:
>
> > After several passes, I still have not heard the Exceed satellite
> > coordinated for 145.900 MHz. Has anyone else heard it or has it changed
> > frequencies?
> >
> > - Loren
> > K7IW
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:29:12 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Frank Westphal <K6FW1@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Alan Biddle <APBIDDLE@???????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Crashes coping Fox1 Cliff
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxXu=bvrPEgP67-xeSogMgjK2gfZZ9rYCiSYE2Z8Mm41DA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm wondering if that might have caused a crash before we had established
the "T0" time.  That means the UTC time at which the satellite would report
its uptime as 0 and is how we calculate the UTC time of the downlink.

Of course not having a T0 time did not last very long, so that might
explain it.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 2:19 PM Frank <K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:

> Ok I have Display UTC Time checked at the bottom of the satellite tab.
> Would that cause FoxTelm to crash?  I have not experienced any further
> FoxTelm crashes since the day of the launch.
>
>
> On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:14 AM, Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??> wrote:
>
> We know that it crashes if you select one of the records at the bottom
> when there is no hi/low telemetry, which would have been the case during
> reset 0.
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:39 AM Alan <wa4sca@?????.???> wrote:
>
>> Frank,
>>
>> The BB list does not pass attachments or HTML, so you will need to
>> provide a link.
>>
>> Fox-1Cliff was in Initial Mode, which is somewhat different from Safe
>> Mode.  No idea why this should cause a problem, however.  It is now in Safe
>> Mode, so you should have better luck.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Alan
>> WA4SCA
>>
>> <-----Original Message-----
>> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of Frank
>> <Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 01:27 AM
>> <To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> <Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Crashes coping Fox1 Cliff
>> <
>> <My FoxTelem crashes when coping DUV from Fox 1 Cliff.  Program is okay
>> <coping DUV until Veronica speaks and then it crashes.  The program worked
>> <fine on AO85 pass after Fox 1 Cliff pass.  Attached is a screenshot of
>> the error
>> <message.  The program has also worked fine on AO91 and AO92 in the past.
>> <Don?t know what?s different about Fox 1 Cliff.  Any ideas?
>> <
>> <Thanks,
>> <Frank
>> <K6FW
>> <
>> <
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>


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:19:54 -0500
From: "Dinesh Cyanam, AB3DC" <AB3DC@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] tracking Fox-1Cliff
Message-ID:
<CAFJj2wi4KezG9mc6xz2yhW4OXJqDch87YR0tK0j2LdNxweEPxg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Ashhar Farhan's bird is ExseedSat-1 and not Fox-1Cliff (AO-95).
ExseedSat-1's downlink is on 145.900 MHz. You can use the Fox-1Cliff TLEs
as both the sats were on the same pod during launch. As far as I know, no
one has heard ExseedSat-1 beacon.

73,
AB3DC
Dinesh


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:34:38 -0600
From: M Thomas <markn9um@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Requesting Skeds
Message-ID:
<CAD4E2bxaKPPHWS-vhQk_M_w1EsQ1e-T3iz7coHWQCVzTb5i+MA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Is there a place to request/set skeds for WAS?  I am sitting at 40 and
obviously it gets harder from here.

I found a place but there has only been one post in recent months.
http://n8fq.org/sked/index.php?board=sat


Thank you!
Mark


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:46:04 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@?????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Requesting Skeds
Message-ID:
<CAEMY9Fc++f5O+NprQHaH7wOY+A+qOdPjaJ9_CJkcdA-YND46tg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Here is a pretty good place to start. What states are you looking for?

Dave-KB1PVH


Sent from my Galaxy S9

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018, 5:40 PM M Thomas <markn9um@?????.??? wrote:

> Is there a place to request/set skeds for WAS?  I am sitting at 40 and
> obviously it gets harder from here.
>
> I found a place but there has only been one post in recent months.
> http://n8fq.org/sked/index.php?board=sat
>
>
> Thank you!
> Mark
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 08:31:48 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any update on AO-85?
Message-ID: <5769e6ce-5450-f775-cca5-f6dec8640fab@???.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

As per title. With my limited setup I am not able to decode any
telemetry from AO-85 anymore. It still comes through the squelch on my
rig+discone, but S/N ratio on my SDR+ArrowAlaska is about half what it
normally was and with fading added there is no long enough sequence for
decoding frames.



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 16:35:42 -0800
From: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding the new AX.25 packet satellites
Message-ID:
<CACymvmfpiSh9OFw996wQ0NWWdzrtSny+jHkQsZo4h4kz8rV32A@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I have several raw IQ captures from last few days with the new satellites
passing and am trying to decode the AX.25 packets from two of them. I'm
using SDRSharp to reply them and pull the signals out using USB mode. I've
already replayed them successfully and decoded both JY1-Sat and AO-95 using
their respective software packages, but I'm having trouble figuring out
ITASAT and MOVE-2. I'm using Virtual Audio Cable to loop back the audio and
UZ7HO Sound modem in an attempt to decode them. For ITASAT, it's set to
1200 bps BPSK and for MOVE-2, I'm using the 9600 baud variant of BPSK Sound
modem from his site. However, efforts have been fruitless to get it to
resolve any packets. Any pointers for these satellites would be appreciated.

73s
Loren
K7IW


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 20:11:15 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any update on AO-85?
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxU6nJtdtOkoicBNSJPsXdrbg+w8QCtAti4=NDVoVxW9Nw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

We have not had any time to look at it trying to deal with the launch and
testing of AO-95 (Fox-1Cliff).  We let it turn into safe mode when it had
some odd behavior.  However, the safe mode telemetry seems to be fine.  I'm
surprised that the power seems low to you.  It should be sending two strong
frame of telemetry and then "resting" for two minutes, then repeating.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:33 PM Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
wrote:

> As per title. With my limited setup I am not able to decode any
> telemetry from AO-85 anymore. It still comes through the squelch on my
> rig+discone, but S/N ratio on my SDR+ArrowAlaska is about half what it
> normally was and with fading added there is no long enough sequence for
> decoding frames.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 17:29:15 -0800
From: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
To: burns@??????.??
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any update on AO-85?
Message-ID:
<CACymvmeTf9o3Z-C00P0NTf8uBcLU0Cz0nPZJN0=ibJ1yNinF=Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

When I first that AO-85 was having issues and had entered safe mode, I
decided I should go out and help collect some of the telemetry with my
handheld yagi. From what I recall, I didn't help have any trouble hearing
the beacon and was able to get FoxTelem to decode two frames during that
one beacon. I then decided it was too cold to wait for the next beacon and
went back inside. It did get me thinking, how likely is it that my attempt
there to collect those frames was unique? I have credit for them on the
dashboard, but were those duplicates from others or were those telemetry
packets ones that might never have been captured if I didn't go outside to
collect them?

Just curious,
Loren
K7IW


On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:20 PM Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??> wrote:

> We have not had any time to look at it trying to deal with the launch and
> testing of AO-95 (Fox-1Cliff).  We let it turn into safe mode when it had
> some odd behavior.  However, the safe mode telemetry seems to be fine.  I'm
> surprised that the power seems low to you.  It should be sending two strong
> frame of telemetry and then "resting" for two minutes, then repeating.
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 7:33 PM Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
> wrote:
>
> > As per title. With my limited setup I am not able to decode any
> > telemetry from AO-85 anymore. It still comes through the squelch on my
> > rig+discone, but S/N ratio on my SDR+ArrowAlaska is about half what it
> > normally was and with fading added there is no long enough sequence for
> > decoding frames.
> >
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 20:35:57 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@??????.??>
To: "Loren M. Lang" <penguin359@?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any update on AO-85?
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxW64aO-=8kyoNVMLW6WnEQe=GhSRpg6n2KJOkj34od-ig@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

First, thank you for doing that!  You can never tell what will be
important, even days or weeks later.

But as to your question, the data to find the answer probably exists, but
it is not a standard thing to get out of the database, so I don't know how
to find it.

You can get a general idea within 90 minutes or so by looking on the
leaderboard, where it will tell you how many people collected data during
the last orbit. Check to see if there are others from 7-land.   I know that
I once looked and saw that I was the only one despite being in the US
Northeast where there are a lot of hams.

Sorry I can't answer the question directly...
73, Burns WB1FJ


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2018 19:45:42 -0600
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Has anyone heard the Exceed Satellite?
Message-ID: <0348c63c-d0a6-3e76-22d1-8ddc4bb1d4f7@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

ExseedSat has been heard, but is sporadic.? Along with telemetry from
Cliff, if stations with big ears can listen for ExseedSat and report
here that would be appreciated.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 12/5/2018 16:26, Burns Fisher wrote:
> I reported to Nitin that I had seen it (was watching a display while trying
> to get Fox-1Cliff telemetry).  But I think I was mistaken looking at the
> wrong freq.  I did not see it at all this morning.
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:18 PM Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> I've listened for the past couple of nights and only heard JY1-SAT, ITASAT,
>> AO-95 and MOVE-II around those frequencies. Nothing heard from Exceed on
>> 145.900 MHz.
>>
>> 73
>> Fernando, NP4JV
>> DM41mi, Arizona
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018, 1:48 PM Loren M. Lang <penguin359@?????.??? wrote:
>>
>>> After several passes, I still have not heard the Exceed satellite
>>> coordinated for 145.900 MHz. Has anyone else heard it or has it changed
>>> frequencies?
>>>
>>> - Loren
>>> K7IW
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> expressed
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expressed
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