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Today's Topics:

   1. IC9700 Update (radiomb)
   2. Re: IC9700 Update (Thomas Schaefer)
   3. rotor feedback please? (David J. Schmocker)
   4. Re: IC9700 Update (Bob Hammond)
   5. Re: IC9700 Update (Frank)
   6. Re: IC9700 Update (David J. Schmocker)
   7. G-5500/LVB Tracker (George Sakai)
   8. Re: G-5500/LVB Tracker (Mark L. Hammond)
   9. Re: IC9700 Update (Bob Hammond)
  10. Re: IC9700 Update (Jim Sanford)
  11. Re: IC9700 Update (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 02:44:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID: <1595750501.1068671.1549766674551@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

   Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one in
person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled by
end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone that
wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995. No tax or
shipping.


------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2019 23:05:20 -0500
From: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID: <E950A988-794D-4629-8796-6BBC0DEE3F49@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships, it
will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit card
until it ships.

Tom NY4I

> On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
>
>   Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one in
person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled by
end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone that
wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995. No tax or
shipping.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 07:09:46 -0600
From: "David J. Schmocker" <kj9idave@???????.???>
To: Robert Switzer via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] rotor feedback please?
Message-ID: <D8857EBA.D717%kj9idave@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="ISO-8859-1"

Hello everyone:
Has anyone direct experience using ProSistel PST-RR-55D ring  or Creative
Design ERC-51D or ERC-5AD (DC motor if there is one of these available)?
with satellite antennas specifically a WiMo WX-220 2m RHCP cross-polarity
yagi 4.3kG and 4.7m long boom, and also Helix 70cm per G3RUH design 16
Turns, 4.0 kG 2.8m boom length.
These will be on a standard cross-boom of fiberglass tube which is 0.250
inch wall 2 inch OD).

Please share good or bad rotator experiences.  My personal requirement is to
build major over-design capability into rotators because my experience (in
the upper midwest) includes ice, snow, winds and I don?t climb so I must
rely on hired help for repairs.

What has been your direct experience with these ProSistel and/or Creative
Design rotors please?    Thank you

Very 73,

Dave KJ9I




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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 07:15:36 -0800
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7OqmUxY-yg5hmpjVrq7KNCFbs3frBf5z8i+QDDqB94HdCA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm ready to order mine along with a power supply.  Any suggestions on PS?

Bob W7OTJ

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:21 PM Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???> wrote:

> FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
> placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships, it
> will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit card
> until it ships.
>
> Tom NY4I
>
> > On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
> >
> >   Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one in
> person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled by
> end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone
> that wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995. No
> tax or shipping.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 08:32:41 -0800
From: Frank <K6FW1@???????.???>
To: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID: <7649C2DD-36A4-4317-8F30-61A7F66A5D87@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I have used Astron power supplies for years.  Pick the appropriate current
rating.

Frank
K6FW

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???> wrote:
>
> I'm ready to order mine along with a power supply.  Any suggestions on PS?
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:21 PM Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???> wrote:
>
>> FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
>> placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships, it
>> will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit card
>> until it ships.
>>
>> Tom NY4I
>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one in
>> person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled by
>> end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone
>> that wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995. No
>> tax or shipping.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 10:56:37 -0600
From: "David J. Schmocker" <kj9idave@???????.???>
To: Frank <K6FW1@???????.???>,	Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID: <D885B176.D725%kj9idave@???????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="ISO-8859-1"

Bob:
I echo Frank?s good input.  I would append this with recommendation to use
a linear (not switching) Astron Power supply because they?re electrically
quiet.  If your P/S needs to power the radio only, an Astron RS-35M would
be large enough.   On the other hand, if you also need to power other
devices (such as linear power amplifier), then you?ll need to go bigger or
use multiple RS-35Ms, etc.    Remember the ratings on these P/Ss are
Intermittent Carrier as used in Amateur Service (ICAS) meaning 50%
(approx.) duty cycle.. Great for CW or SSB.  However for any full duty
cycle mode such as WSJT, FM? etc, then you need to derate the power supply
so it?s capabilities are not exceeded.
Switch-mode Power Supplies (switching supplies or 'switchers?) are smaller
and lighter weight with the trade-off that they generate electrical noise
(because of how they regulate the output level) and inherently are noisy.
Linear supplies are bigger and heavier (and less power-efficient) but for
those trades, one gets absolute electrical quiet performance because they
don?t hot-switch power signals away from a zero-crossing.  If you wish to
see an animated ?how switching power supplies work? video (approx. 14
minutes), here?s one I share when explaining this concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJYIorz_Aw

Very 73,

Dave KJ9I

On 2/10/19, 10:32 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Frank"
<amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:

>I have used Astron power supplies for years.  Pick the appropriate
>current rating.
>
>Frank
>K6FW
>
>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???> wrote:
>>
>> I'm ready to order mine along with a power supply.  Any suggestions on
>>PS?
>>
>> Bob W7OTJ
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:21 PM Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
>>> placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships,
>>>it
>>> will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit
>>>card
>>> until it ships.
>>>
>>> Tom NY4I
>>>
>>>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one
>>>>in
>>> person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled
>>>by
>>> end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone
>>> that wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995.
>>>No
>>> tax or shipping.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed
>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>AMSAT-NA.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 17:24:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: George Sakai <grsakai5120@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] G-5500/LVB Tracker
Message-ID: <1248740198.1193408.1549819461712@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Has anyone experienced problems with the Elevation or Azimuth indicator
(meter) of G-5500 rotator ?? The Elevation meter does not move at all.? The
LVB Tracker shows correct Azimuth and Elevation angles and the G-5500
rotator follows the correct angles.? However, the Elevation meter of G-5500
remains at zero degree.? The Azimuth meter works just fine.? Thanks.
73, George N3GS

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:30:11 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@?????.???>
To: George Sakai <grsakai5120@?????.???>,amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] G-5500/LVB Tracker
Message-ID: <20190210173012.8C12E8070@??????????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

George,

Yes, sadly, I have (and currently do...).  In time, I get used to ignoring
the meters ;)  Seems like a long time ago I took apart the G-5500 box, and
it was a dirty contact/corrosion/grounding issue of the meters/board?  Can't
recall...

If you debug, please share what you find...

Mark N8MH

At 05:24 PM 2/10/2019 +0000, George Sakai via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>Has anyone experienced problems with the Elevation or Azimuth indicator
(meter) of G-5500 rotator ??  The Elevation meter does not move at all.? 
The LVB Tracker shows correct Azimuth and Elevation angles and the G-5500
rotator follows the correct angles.?  However, the Elevation meter of G-5500
remains at zero degree.?  The Azimuth meter works just fine.?  Thanks. 73,
George N3GS _______________________________________________ Sent via
AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
satellite program! Subscription settings:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 10:16:42 -0800
From: Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???>
To: "David J. Schmocker" <kj9idave@???????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID:
<CAKoB7OqW99UWcqy90TnwhWbdZR+xWXqZWOyXG9aDQJyn5CiVcw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Thanks!  Astron it is.

Bob W7OTJ

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:56 AM David J. Schmocker <kj9idave@???????.???>
wrote:

> Bob:
> I echo Frank?s good input.  I would append this with recommendation to use
> a linear (not switching) Astron Power supply because they?re electrically
> quiet.  If your P/S needs to power the radio only, an Astron RS-35M would
> be large enough.   On the other hand, if you also need to power other
> devices (such as linear power amplifier), then you?ll need to go bigger or
> use multiple RS-35Ms, etc.    Remember the ratings on these P/Ss are
> Intermittent Carrier as used in Amateur Service (ICAS) meaning 50%
> (approx.) duty cycle.. Great for CW or SSB.  However for any full duty
> cycle mode such as WSJT, FM? etc, then you need to derate the power supply
> so it?s capabilities are not exceeded.
> Switch-mode Power Supplies (switching supplies or 'switchers?) are smaller
> and lighter weight with the trade-off that they generate electrical noise
> (because of how they regulate the output level) and inherently are noisy.
> Linear supplies are bigger and heavier (and less power-efficient) but for
> those trades, one gets absolute electrical quiet performance because they
> don?t hot-switch power signals away from a zero-crossing.  If you wish to
> see an animated ?how switching power supplies work? video (approx. 14
> minutes), here?s one I share when explaining this concept.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJYIorz_Aw
>
> Very 73,
>
> Dave KJ9I
>
> On 2/10/19, 10:32 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Frank"
> <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:
>
> >I have used Astron power supplies for years.  Pick the appropriate
> >current rating.
> >
> >Frank
> >K6FW
> >
> >> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm ready to order mine along with a power supply.  Any suggestions on
> >>PS?
> >>
> >> Bob W7OTJ
> >>
> >> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:21 PM Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???> wrote:
> >>
> >>> FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
> >>> placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships,
> >>>it
> >>> will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit
> >>>card
> >>> until it ships.
> >>>
> >>> Tom NY4I
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one
> >>>>in
> >>> person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled
> >>>by
> >>> end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone
> >>> that wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995.
> >>>No
> >>> tax or shipping.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>> Opinions expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >>>>of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>> program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>Opinions
> >>> expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >>>of
> >>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> >>of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> >to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >Opinions expressed
> >are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> >AMSAT-NA.
> >Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> >Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>


------------------------------

Message: 10
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:28:03 -0500
From: Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
Message-ID: <8515f4af-d04f-7050-8697-c7ac10f25573@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I have several RS35Ms and they have been trouble-free.

AFter an ARRL review several years back, I tried an SS-30.? (The Astrons
were significantly quieter than anything else that they tested.)? No RF
noise that I could detect.? That said, I have not put a scope on the DC
lines, but will when I get a chance.

I have bought several more SS-30s and had no noise problem with them.?
So, for Field Day and PA QSO Party, I carry a switcher. (Weight!!)

Good luck & very 73,

Jim

wb4gcs@?????.???

On 2/10/2019 1:16 PM, Bob Hammond wrote:
> Thanks!  Astron it is.
>
> Bob W7OTJ
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:56 AM David J. Schmocker <kj9idave@???????.???>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob:
>> I echo Frank?s good input.  I would append this with recommendation to use
>> a linear (not switching) Astron Power supply because they?re electrically
>> quiet.  If your P/S needs to power the radio only, an Astron RS-35M would
>> be large enough.   On the other hand, if you also need to power other
>> devices (such as linear power amplifier), then you?ll need to go bigger or
>> use multiple RS-35Ms, etc.    Remember the ratings on these P/Ss are
>> Intermittent Carrier as used in Amateur Service (ICAS) meaning 50%
>> (approx.) duty cycle.. Great for CW or SSB.  However for any full duty
>> cycle mode such as WSJT, FM? etc, then you need to derate the power supply
>> so it?s capabilities are not exceeded.
>> Switch-mode Power Supplies (switching supplies or 'switchers?) are smaller
>> and lighter weight with the trade-off that they generate electrical noise
>> (because of how they regulate the output level) and inherently are noisy.
>> Linear supplies are bigger and heavier (and less power-efficient) but for
>> those trades, one gets absolute electrical quiet performance because they
>> don?t hot-switch power signals away from a zero-crossing.  If you wish to
>> see an animated ?how switching power supplies work? video (approx. 14
>> minutes), here?s one I share when explaining this concept.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJYIorz_Aw
>>
>> Very 73,
>>
>> Dave KJ9I
>>
>> On 2/10/19, 10:32 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Frank"
>> <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> I have used Astron power supplies for years.  Pick the appropriate
>>> current rating.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> K6FW
>>>
>>>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm ready to order mine along with a power supply.  Any suggestions on
>>>> PS?
>>>>
>>>> Bob W7OTJ
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:21 PM Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
>>>>> placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships,
>>>>> it
>>>>> will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit
>>>>> card
>>>>> until it ships.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom NY4I
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one
>>>>>> in
>>>>> person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled
>>>>> by
>>>>> end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that anyone
>>>>> that wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995.
>>>>> No
>>>>> tax or shipping.
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2019 13:53:00 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: wb4gcs@?????.???
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] IC9700 Update
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My RS-35M has served me well for nearly 19 years, so I'll add to that
recommendation.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 1:28 PM Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@??????.???> wrote:
>
> I have several RS35Ms and they have been trouble-free.
>
> AFter an ARRL review several years back, I tried an SS-30.  (The Astrons
> were significantly quieter than anything else that they tested.)  No RF
> noise that I could detect.  That said, I have not put a scope on the DC
> lines, but will when I get a chance.
>
> I have bought several more SS-30s and had no noise problem with them.
> So, for Field Day and PA QSO Party, I carry a switcher. (Weight!!)
>
> Good luck & very 73,
>
> Jim
>
> wb4gcs@?????.???
>
> On 2/10/2019 1:16 PM, Bob Hammond wrote:
> > Thanks!  Astron it is.
> >
> > Bob W7OTJ
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:56 AM David J. Schmocker <kj9idave@???????.???>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Bob:
> >> I echo Frank?s good input.  I would append this with recommendation to
use
> >> a linear (not switching) Astron Power supply because they?re electrically
> >> quiet.  If your P/S needs to power the radio only, an Astron RS-35M would
> >> be large enough.   On the other hand, if you also need to power other
> >> devices (such as linear power amplifier), then you?ll need to go bigger
or
> >> use multiple RS-35Ms, etc.    Remember the ratings on these P/Ss are
> >> Intermittent Carrier as used in Amateur Service (ICAS) meaning 50%
> >> (approx.) duty cycle.. Great for CW or SSB.  However for any full duty
> >> cycle mode such as WSJT, FM? etc, then you need to derate the power
supply
> >> so it?s capabilities are not exceeded.
> >> Switch-mode Power Supplies (switching supplies or 'switchers?) are
smaller
> >> and lighter weight with the trade-off that they generate electrical noise
> >> (because of how they regulate the output level) and inherently are noisy.
> >> Linear supplies are bigger and heavier (and less power-efficient) but for
> >> those trades, one gets absolute electrical quiet performance because they
> >> don?t hot-switch power signals away from a zero-crossing.  If you wish to
> >> see an animated ?how switching power supplies work? video (approx. 14
> >> minutes), here?s one I share when explaining this concept.
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJYIorz_Aw
> >>
> >> Very 73,
> >>
> >> Dave KJ9I
> >>
> >> On 2/10/19, 10:32 AM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Frank"
> >> <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.??? on behalf of K6FW1@???????.???> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have used Astron power supplies for years.  Pick the appropriate
> >>> current rating.
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> K6FW
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 7:15 AM, Bob Hammond <propgrinder@?????.???> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm ready to order mine along with a power supply.  Any suggestions on
> >>>> PS?
> >>>>
> >>>> Bob W7OTJ
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 8:21 PM Thomas Schaefer <ny4i@????.???> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> FYI - When I ordered mine from DXEngineering (due to the reservation I
> >>>>> placed), they said if the price drops from the $2098 before it ships,
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> will sell for the lower price. That also do not charge one?s credit
> >>>>> card
> >>>>> until it ships.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tom NY4I
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 9:44 PM, radiomb <radiomb@?????????.???> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   Just purchased a IC9700 today at Hamcation. It was great to see one
> >>>>>> in
> >>>>> person. I got it for $1995. Icom said all back orders should be filled
> >>>>> by
> >>>>> end of April. They said they should have enough in stock so that
anyone
> >>>>> that wants one at Dayton can get it. I was happy to get it for $1995.
> >>>>> No
> >>>>> tax or shipping.
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