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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: ISS APRS Signal Quality? (Brian Clark)
   2. Re: Setting up the D72 for ISS packet? (Adrian Engele)
   3. Re: Setting up the D72 for ISS packet? (Jeff Johns)
   4. Re: Setting up the D72 for ISS packet?
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   5. Re: ISS APRS Signal Quality? (kb2mjeff@???.????
   6. Re: ISS APRS Signal Quality? (Matt Hornsby)
   7. Re: The Space Race is On--and We're Behind... (Jean Marc Momple)
   8. A new 400bps telemetry beacon now on! (Graham Shirville)
   9. Re: US IC-9700 prices announced (Alan)
  10. Re: A new 400bps telemetry beacon now on! (Alan)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 08:11:55 -0800
From: Brian Clark <decompudoc@?????.???>
To: Dave Taylor <w8aas@???????.???>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
Message-ID: <4A008DE0-2B1D-436D-937C-992C496668C3@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Thank you Dave for the update and clarity!

Brian, KF6FES

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Dave Taylor <w8aas@???????.???> wrote:
>
> APRS is now using a new packet module that is identical in construction to
the failed one.  The new packet module was just launched to space a few
months ago as a backup and just put into operation.  We are using the same
radio and antenna as before, so any differences people are seeing should be
due to the TNC in the packet module.
>
> SSTV was sent using a different radio and antenna, from the other end of
ISS.  The initial problem with it was completely unrelated to APRS.
>
> Dave, W8AAS
>
>> On Feb 13, 2019, at 7:14 AM, kb2mjeff@???.??? wrote:
>>
>> I'm also having trouble working the ISS packet station, since it's been
>> turned back on. I'm kinda seeing that I can get in better when the ISS is
at
>> a certain angle from me. I'm almost sure of this but have been busy
>> elsewhere, so I'm not around for all the passes to be certain. Maybe
they'll
>> go back to the good antenna location, if they can...
>>
>> 73 Jeff kb2m
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Brian Clark
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:54 PM
>> To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
>> Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
>>
>> It appears that after the system came back after being down for over a
>> month, that something changed.  I have been able to hit it with a Kenwood
>> TH-D72, but it was not easy.  The receive is a bit deaf, and the transmit
is
>> very weak.  I tried last evening, but was unsuccessful.
>>
>> I am wondering if some new antenna systems are being tested.  It was a
>> similar situation with the SSTV event over the weekend, then it came back
>> full strength.  I am certain that after the testing is complete (if that is
>> what is going on) things will be strong and great again.  The A.R.I.S.S.
>> Team is very good and is always working hard with the ISS crew members to
>> keep the systems in tip top shape.
>>
>> 73's de KF6FES
>>
>> Brian,
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 6:46 PM Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have tried two different radios, an Icom IC-2820h and a Kenwood TM-V71A.
>>> No luck with the Icom at full power on a high elevation pass. Better
>>> luck with the Kenwood but only on higher passes and transmitting with 50w.
>>>
>>> Other operators have been able to get their packets digipeated with
>>> Kenwood APRS-Ready HTs, so it's kind of puzzling.
>>>
>>> I'm using a Mobilinkd TNC3. I have no problem hitting distant
>>> terrestrial digipeaters with both setups.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Fernando, NP4JV
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 7:37 PM <walterh@????.???> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I definitely have to agree with you.
>>>>
>>>> The signal does seem to be less than half of what it used to be, and
>>>> I
>>> have
>>>> yet to hit it myself. When it used to be so easy.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what has changed, but it's certainly not the same as it was
>>> before
>>>> the shut down several weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>> Walter/K5WH
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Frank
>>> Karnauskas
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:19 PM
>>>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
>>>>
>>>> Is it me or does the APRS signal not sound as strong as it was
>>>> before and is it not hearing quite as well?
>>>>
>>>> I am having a heck of a time pinging the digipeater and the signal
>>>> seems
>>> to
>>>> be down a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Could entirely be something on my end, but I would appreciate others'
>>>> opinion.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
>>>> N1UW@???????.???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
>>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
>>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
>> membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>>> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to
all
>> interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:34:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@?????.???>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Robert Bruninga
<bruninga@????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Setting up the D72 for ISS packet?
Message-ID: <301884180.422102.1550082862816@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Check out this excellent write-up by Patrick WD99EWK:?
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/AMSAT_Journal_Kenwo
odHT_Packet.pdf
73, Adrian AA5UK

    On Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 12:04:33 PM CST, Robert Bruninga
<bruninga@????.???> wrote:

 Setting up the TH-D72 for ISS packet:



Choose the APRS menu and set your CALLSIGN on the BASIC SET menu.



Tune? the radio BAND A to 145.825 with a good antenna and minimal coax loss.

Turn on the? TNC by pressing the TNC key to bring up the little tiny
APRS12 lettering in the top of the screen.



That?s all y ou need to start receiving ISS APRS packets. (I think)



To transmit, you need to turn on your GPS **or** turn it off and manually
enter your position using the POS key.



Then when you want to transmit, hit the BCON key twice.



Everyone, Did I miss anything in this minimal summary?



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* Gerald
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality? (tone skew?) corrected



Bob,

I have the Kenwood TH-D72A that comes with TNC, but have no idea how to use
it. Even the manual is some what vague. Is there anyone on this site that
may be able to help me with it? The HT has over 500 menus and I'm still
trying to learn all of them.

Thanks,



Jerry...
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 12:39:35 -0600
From: Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Setting up the D72 for ISS packet?
Message-ID: <CC0E0E2F-A0AF-405D-8A44-93DBDA3B81FF@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

My daughter uses a D72 and I use a D7. The D7 although a bit different is
amazingly similar and WD9EWK also has it documented with pics in his Dropbox
account.

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 12:34 PM, Adrian Engele via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:
>
> Check out this excellent write-up by Patrick WD99EWK: 
https://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/AMSAT_Journal_Kenwo
odHT_Packet.pdf
> 73, Adrian AA5UK
>
>    On Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 12:04:33 PM CST, Robert Bruninga
<bruninga@????.???> wrote:
>
> Setting up the TH-D72 for ISS packet:
>
>
>
> Choose the APRS menu and set your CALLSIGN on the BASIC SET menu.
>
>
>
> Tune  the radio BAND A to 145.825 with a good antenna and minimal coax loss.
>
> Turn on the  TNC by pressing the TNC key to bring up the little tiny
> APRS12 lettering in the top of the screen.
>
>
>
> That?s all y ou need to start receiving ISS APRS packets. (I think)
>
>
>
> To transmit, you need to turn on your GPS **or** turn it off and manually
> enter your position using the POS key.
>
>
>
> Then when you want to transmit, hit the BCON key twice.
>
>
>
> Everyone, Did I miss anything in this minimal summary?
>
>
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>
>
> *From:* Gerald
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality? (tone skew?) corrected
>
>
>
> Bob,
>
> I have the Kenwood TH-D72A that comes with TNC, but have no idea how to use
> it. Even the manual is some what vague. Is there anyone on this site that
> may be able to help me with it? The HT has over 500 menus and I'm still
> trying to learn all of them.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jerry...
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 19:34:05 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@??????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Setting up the D72 for ISS packet?
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUcRtFMFpsWrGUOygtFS-YMn+Wcgv6+EozLK-tvsgw0hBg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi!

As AA5UK mentioned, I co-wrote an article covering the
use of Kenwood's TH-D72 and TH-D74 HTs with the ISS and
NO-84 digipeaters for the AMSAT Journal. That article is
available from AMSAT's Station and Operating Hints web
page:

https://www.amsat.org/station-and-operating-hints/

or at the direct link Adrian referenced in his earlier
post.

I recently wrote an article "Making Digital Contacts
Through the ISS", which appeared in the December 2018 QST.
I now have a PDF copy of that article, available from the
"Articles" folder in my Dropbox space:

http://dropbox.wd9ewk.net/

This QST article has a chart with settings for some Kenwood
and Yaesu radios currently in production (Kenwood's TH-D72,
TH-D74, & TM-D710G; also Yaesu's FT-2DR and FTM-400XDR) with
those orbiting digipeaters, along with the sidebar covering
the legalities for US hams operating on the 145.825 MHz
frequency.

I wrote another article on how to use the Kenwood TH-D72
and TM-D710G with FalconSat-3's cross-band digipeater for
the AMSAT Journal, which is also available from the AMSAT
Station and Operating Hints web page at the link above.

As WE4B mentioned, I have a folder in my Dropbox space with
screenshots, and now a PDF, on how to set up a Kenwood TH-D7
HT for use with the ISS and NO-84 digipeaters. Look for the
folder "TH-D7AG" in my Dropbox space for files related to
that radio. As the TH-D7 has been out of production for over
a decade, I did not reference it in the QST article - even
though the TH-D7 is still a popular choice for FM and packet
satellite work.

If only the ISS digipeater wasn't so deaf, since it came back
on in the last couple of weeks...

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @?????? or http://twitter.com/WD9EWK




On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 6:40 PM Jeff Johns <jeff30339@?????.???> wrote:

> My daughter uses a D72 and I use a D7. The D7 although a bit different is
> amazingly similar and WD9EWK also has it documented with pics in his
> Dropbox account.
>
>
>


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 13:39:53 -0500
From: <kb2mjeff@???.???>
To: "'AMSAT -BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
Message-ID: <07b101d4c3cb$8323b5c0$896b2140$@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

For whatever reason the d/l from the ISS packet station is much weaker. I
keep missing the passes to research more, but from what I've seen there is
not much signal.

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 10:20 AM
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?

APRS is now using a new packet module that is identical in construction to
the failed one.  The new packet module was just launched to space a few
months ago as a backup and just put into operation.  We are using the same
radio and antenna as before, so any differences people are seeing should be
due to the TNC in the packet module.

SSTV was sent using a different radio and antenna, from the other end of
ISS.  The initial problem with it was completely unrelated to APRS.

Dave, W8AAS

> On Feb 13, 2019, at 7:14 AM, kb2mjeff@???.??? wrote:
>
> I'm also having trouble working the ISS packet station, since it's
> been turned back on. I'm kinda seeing that I can get in better when
> the ISS is at a certain angle from me. I'm almost sure of this but
> have been busy elsewhere, so I'm not around for all the passes to be
> certain. Maybe they'll go back to the good antenna location, if they
can...
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Brian Clark
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:54 PM
> To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@?????.???>
> Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
>
> It appears that after the system came back after being down for over a
> month, that something changed.  I have been able to hit it with a
> Kenwood TH-D72, but it was not easy.  The receive is a bit deaf, and
> the transmit is very weak.  I tried last evening, but was unsuccessful.
>
> I am wondering if some new antenna systems are being tested.  It was a
> similar situation with the SSTV event over the weekend, then it came
> back full strength.  I am certain that after the testing is complete
> (if that is what is going on) things will be strong and great again.  The
A.R.I.S.S.
> Team is very good and is always working hard with the ISS crew members
> to keep the systems in tip top shape.
>
> 73's de KF6FES
>
> Brian,
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 6:46 PM Fernando Ramirez
> <framirezferrer@?????.???
> wrote:
>
>> I have tried two different radios, an Icom IC-2820h and a Kenwood
TM-V71A.
>> No luck with the Icom at full power on a high elevation pass. Better
>> luck with the Kenwood but only on higher passes and transmitting with
50w.
>>
>> Other operators have been able to get their packets digipeated with
>> Kenwood APRS-Ready HTs, so it's kind of puzzling.
>>
>> I'm using a Mobilinkd TNC3. I have no problem hitting distant
>> terrestrial digipeaters with both setups.
>>
>> 73
>> Fernando, NP4JV
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019, 7:37 PM <walterh@????.???> wrote:
>>
>>> I definitely have to agree with you.
>>>
>>> The signal does seem to be less than half of what it used to be, and
>>> I
>> have
>>> yet to hit it myself. When it used to be so easy.
>>>
>>> Not sure what has changed, but it's certainly not the same as it was
>> before
>>> the shut down several weeks ago.
>>>
>>> Walter/K5WH
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Frank
>> Karnauskas
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:19 PM
>>> To: amsat-bb@?????.???
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
>>>
>>> Is it me or does the APRS signal not sound as strong as it was
>>> before and is it not hearing quite as well?
>>>
>>> I am having a heck of a time pinging the digipeater and the signal
>>> seems
>> to
>>> be down a bit.
>>>
>>> Could entirely be something on my end, but I would appreciate others'
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> FRANK W. KARNAUSKAS, N1UW
>>> N1UW@???????.???
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
>>> membership. Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and
>>> do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings:
>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
> membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>> views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings:
>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb

_______________________________________________
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interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
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------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:23:47 -0800
From: Matt Hornsby <matt.hornsby@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS APRS Signal Quality?
Message-ID:
<CAFSeifcKhw+tLn0F1Rf7yBbq43eHbz3dH0hdkaZ=ykRBzFavGg@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Just wanted to add to the dogpile about ISS APRS signal quality. Myself and
others have noticed here in the Seattle area the same deafness since APRS
came back online. We've tried on different th-d74s with arrow and elk
antennas. I used to be able to reliably hit ISS on 5W with that setup.
We've now seen that pumping 45 or 50 watts into one of those directional
antennas is relatively successful, but 5W almost never works.

Also, in the past, I've had no problem with my kenwood tm-d710 connected to
a roof-mounted comet gp-3. 50 watts reliably worked to get digipeated at
relatively low passes. Now, not so much.

73,
Matt KS9O


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 00:04:49 +0400
From: Jean Marc Momple <jean.marc.momple@?????.???>
To: peter@??????.???
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@?????.???>, Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] The Space Race is On--and We're Behind...
Message-ID: <2F8FC2CA-12CE-4D88-ADB9-7A42AA4AD26B@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Peter,

The Qatar Amateur Radio Society ?
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_Amateur_Radio_Society>& AMSAT-DL did a
great job and as usual it is probably the work of just few and I take this
the opportunity to congratulate them for their great work. Also wish to
thanks their main sponsor Es?Hailsat for their support to the Radio Amateur
community.

That said, many commercial GEO?s are sent to space regularly costing
millions of $, this kind of amateur transponder cost just a fraction of the
overall cost of the bird. Honestly I cannot estimated same in spite quite
familiar with satellite commercial operations as being in the telecom
industry professionally, but surely just a small fraction of the overall cost.

HAMs worldwide are professionally quite active in the telecom sector, thus
have some influence and if we can just ask, ?someone said some 2000 years
ago: ask and you will obtain?, therefore I strongly believe and encourage
all who have the opportunity to ask to do so that we may benefit of possible
opportunities. And may be we may have a few GEO?s up there in the next
years. The time of piggy back as rocket ballast is gone but we may try to be
creative an find new ways to be a small payload on the commercial satellites
or other scientific projects, the Chinese lunar satellite, DSLWP, is a good
example of a great success in line with what I said.

Just a personal though to share and to motivate one and all.

73


Jean Marc (3B8DU)


> On Feb 13, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Peter Goodhall (2M0SQL)
<peter@????????.??.??> wrote:
>
> Les,
>
> While I understand the disappointment that North America isn't in the
> footprint it's worth understanding that QO-100 was probably pure luck & the
> sheer cost involved would probably bankrupt AMSAT even if it did have the
> funds sitting around.
>
> What AMSAT (USA & UK/NL) achieve & get into orbit is still impressive in
> its own right although I think some on the -BB disagree.
>
> Perhaps Es'Hail-2 will encourage other commercial companies to provide bent
> pipe transponders but it's a huge ask & they may even want a few million
> dollars for the deal.
>
> Let's enjoy what we have
>
> Peter, 2M0SQL
>
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019, 09:55 Les Rayburn <les@????????????.??? wrote:
>
>> :-)
>>
>> After listening to the WebSDR of Oscar-100 for nearly 24 hours now, it?s
>> easy to imagine how my parents must have felt on October 4, 1957 as Sputnik
>> transmitted it?s ?beep beep beep? message to the world. Everything had
>> changed in an instant.
>>
>> A geostationary hamsat is a quantum leap forward?and I confess to feeling
>> a twinge of disappointment that someone other than AMSAT-NA accomplished
>> this feat first.
>>
>> As a teenager, I remember driving a friends brand new, 1974 Corvette
>> Stingray. My first thought was ?Man! I gotta get me one of these!? Color me
>> jealous.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> Maylene, AL
>> EM63nf
>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 22:12:40 +0000
From: Graham Shirville <graham@?????????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] A new 400bps telemetry beacon now on!
Message-ID: <803664f9-741c-8837-234e-cc7aa2fa2940@?????????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Those of a certain vintage will remember listening to the distinctive
400 bps beacons from AO10, 13 and finally AO40.

You can now hear the sound again, live. If you are in range of Oscar-100
then tune to 10489.800 MHz or, if not, then logon to the BATC/AMSAT-UK?
websdr here https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/and tune to the same frequency!

Wonderful...thank you QARS and AMSAT-DL

73
Graham
G3VZV




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:13:31 -0600
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] US IC-9700 prices announced
Message-ID: <000001d4c3e9$5ac986e0$105c94a0$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

R&L Electronics has announced $1799.95 with free USA shipping.  Looking
better.  No information on shipping date.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA




<-----Original Message-----
<From: Alan [mailto:wa4sca@?????.????
<Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 12:42 PM
<To: 'amsat-bb@?????.???? <amsat-bb@?????.???>
<Subject: US IC-9700 prices announced
<
<Per reports from HamCation, MSRP is $2195.  HRO, GigaParts, and
<DXEngineering are listing them for $2095 for delivery 2Q.
<
<73,
<
<Alan
<WA4SCA
<




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2019 16:16:49 -0600
From: "Alan" <wa4sca@?????.???>
To: "'Graham Shirville'" <graham@?????????.???>, "'AMSAT'"
<amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] A new 400bps telemetry beacon now on!
Message-ID: <000301d4c3e9$d12339d0$7369ad70$@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Graham,

My, but that brings back old, fond memories!  Will/is there a decoder?

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???? On Behalf Of
<Graham Shirville
<Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 16:13 PM
<To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
<Subject: [amsat-bb] A new 400bps telemetry beacon now on!
<
<Those of a certain vintage will remember listening to the distinctive
<400 bps beacons from AO10, 13 and finally AO40.
<
<You can now hear the sound again, live. If you are in range of Oscar-100
<then tune to 10489.800 MHz or, if not, then logon to the BATC/AMSAT-UK
<websdr here https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/and tune to the same frequency!
<
<Wonderful...thank you QARS and AMSAT-DL
<
<73
<Graham
<G3VZV
<
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
<expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-
<NA.
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<program!
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