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G8MNY  > TECHNI   22.06.18 10:45l 82 Lines 3261 Bytes #9 (0) @ WW
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By G8MNY                                       (Updated Feb 17)
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Although you can buy a commercial probe, here is one that you can make for
either an oscilloscope or a DMM. It is designed to fit an old plastic single
piece clear pen tube. For general high voltage work there is no need for great
accuracy, just safety & kit protection.

Specifications
240V - 10kV MAX
DC to 50Hz only. Not for LOPTY AC stages!
100M input load.

Use 1kV rated Rs!

10:1 DIGITAL VOLTMETER PROBE
This assumes the DMM is 10M input.

            <------------- 90M -------------->
Wire ,/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Flexible           DMM
 10M10M10M-10M-10M10M10M10M10M===================>---Input
Probe`\_____________________________________________ insulated wire    10M
          thick plastic like clear uncracked pen                                                                
Earth ____________________________________________________________________

CALIBRATION
DMM
Apply mains to DMM & note reading. Add the series probe & the reading should
have gone down to 1/10. If to high add more Rs to suit, it too low replace an R
with a low value to suit.


100:1 SCOPE PROBE 100
This assumes the scope is 1M input.

            <-------------- 99M ---------------->
Wire ,/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Flexible         Scope
 10M10M10M-10M-10M10M10M10M10M9M===================(o)Input
Probe`\____________________________________________ insulated wire    1M
                                                                         
Earth ___________________________________________________________________

The 9M is just a low value 10M selected on test. Or you could just use the
same DMM probe for both & recalibrate the scope to suit when used.

CALIBRATION
SCOPE
If scope has 100V/cm range, apply 240V mains at 350V peak 700V peak-peak &
measure with scope directly, it should give about 7cm p-p. Now with probe in
series adjust the scope's Y front panel gain for the same 7cm P-P display on
the 1V/cm range. Or you can adjust the R values as in DMM calibration.

MEASURING HIGH VOLTAGES
With all power off, & any HV point safely dumped to earth, connect the wire
probe. Ensure the meter/scope is safely connected to the same circuit as
needed.

With hands clear power up the HV & take readings etc.

For B/W TV/MON/SCOPES EHT be aware that 10kV will easily track any slightly
dirty/damp surface! Plastic sprays like "Damp Start" can be useful, but be
aware of non connection to surfaces coated with it!

SAFETY
If the testgear end gets disconnected power down the HV unit & make sure any HT
is safely discharged before working on the loose testgear end of the probe.

This longitudinal resistor design should not flashover, but is extra testgear
protection is needed put a wire ended NEON tube across the DMM/SCOPE input.
That should limit the DMM or SCOPE to see only 80V (e.g. probe can only measure
up to 800V on DMM or 8kV on SCOPE).


See my Tech Buls "Scope Probes" & "Scope & DMM Calibrator"

Why Don't U send an interesting bul?

73 de John G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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