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G8MNY  > TECH     22.10.18 09:45l 86 Lines 4172 Bytes #9 (0) @ WW
BID : 42535_GB7CIP
Subj: Systron Donner 1702 Sig Gen
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From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
To  : TECH@WW

By G8MNY                              (Updated Nov 17)
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In 1998 I bought this large digital signal generators in & not regretted it. It
is a deep 19" 3U rack unit with side handles, & weighs 25kg!

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  AF osc mod  ext  Power      FM  CW  AM      On/Off    N o/p   Reset

It was made in the USA by Thorn EMI that owned the SYSTRON DONNER Co. in 1983
at around $10,000!

It uses several PLL oscillators & mixers, all locked to an internal/external
reference. It has a calibrated 4 digit display of peak AM & FM modulation from
the built in locked 400Hz & 1kHz sine wave sources as well as external
modulation.

It was not all working (e.g. no 144MHz), & later a main smoothing cap O/C. But
I have managed to repair all the faults, without a diagram! Which was very time
consuming working out how it all worked, (internal silvered brass sectioned RF
unit & 16 gold plated PCBs).

The lever gear operated frequency wheels have very strong home clicker spings.
So strong that their internal arc & pinion gears are at risk of stripping. I
had to take one apart to repare the gear (heat treatment of the plastic teeth).
So I weakened all 7 wheels home spings, so they would last longer. But the
partly striped gear arc did not last & I eventually replaced it with a glued on
toothed wheel (from VHS deck) to make it a conventional thumb wheel.

I have done several mods to it now, eg. FM deviation increased to ñ100kHz,
improved modulation bandwidth > 30kHz, off reference fine tune, & external 625
line TV timebase lock (obsolete now with digital TV!)

MY SPECIFICATION
AC Mains input  240V 40-100Hz @ 50W on rear IEC connector
                Mains voltage links on plug inside.. 250, 220, 125 110V
RF Output       N socket 50ê. 0.1uV to 1V RMS Max.
Attenuator      120dB 20dB/step & 10dB 1dB/Step attenuator (& Term)
Frequency       Range 100Hz to 999.9999MHz in 100Hz steps,
                using 7 large lever operated wheels
Accuracy        1/10^7 internal temperature compensated Xtal reference
                Off Calibration Fine Tuning ñ70 PPM
                Frequency accuracy compromised on FM by ñ5Hz jitter!
                Rear 1 MHz BNC O/P Reference TTL level
                Rear 1 MHz BNC External input Reference TTL level/TV

Harmonics & spuri > -30dBc, typical -55dBc. 400MHz up/down mix system.

Accidental Tx RF trip relay @ >500mW in, but the 10dB atten is unprotected!

PLL lock indicator & Level correct indicator (AGC OK eg. not in AM)

Modulation      FM Indicated 19.99 or 100.0kHz, AM 0.0-100.0% (clips @ 95%)
                Internal Locked 400Hz & 1kHz (FM offset @1kHz!) BNC O/P
                External BNC I/P into 5Kê 10Hz-30kHz

USES
As well a very low carrier freq for FM & AM scope demos on Ham training courses
I use it for setting up RF Rx. And with an external "off air ref", it can
generate any frequency to very high accuracy.


See my tech Buls on "Syston Donner 115 Pulse Gen", "198kHz Off Air Standard",
"Comparing Off Air Freq Standards", "Off Air Lock for Ref Osc"."Scope RF Trick"
& "Marconi 2019A Sig Gen".


Why don't U send an interesting bul?

73 de John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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