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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: FM Birds, New Grids, and Chaos (saguaroastro)
   2. NO-84 Digipeater Online (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
   3. Re: TH D72, Heil HTH-K, and recording Qs (Robert Bankston)
   4. PACSAT/Falconsat-3 telemetry decoder (Apostolos Kefalas)
   5. NO-84 Digipeater Online (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
   6. Re: NO-84 Digipeater Online (Joe)
   7. Re: NO-84 Digipeater Online (Robert Bruninga)
   8. Re: NO-84 Digipeater Online (Joe)
   9. NO-84 Digipeater Online (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
  10. Re: NO-84 Digipeater Online (Robert Bruninga)
  11. Re: NO-84 Digipeater Online (Zach Metzinger)
  12. Fwd:  NO-84 Digipeater Online (Paul Stoetzer)
  13. Lost recording AO-91 (Bob Keating)
  14. NO-84 Digipeater Online (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 08:53:18 -0700
From: saguaroastro <saguaroastro@???.???>
To: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>, John Brier
<johnbrier@?????.???>
Cc: Work-Sat@??????.??? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM Birds, New Grids, and Chaos
Message-ID:
<20190217155321.SFMP12708.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@?????????????.???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Les, good advice.?Speaking western grids Patrick WD9EWK will be on the
DM12/DM22 grid boundary today.73Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)Saguaro Astronomy
ClubWww.saguaroastro.orgThunderbird Astronomy ClubWww.w7tbc.org
-------- Original message --------From: Les Rayburn <les@????????????.???>
Date: 2/16/19  21:30  (GMT-07:00) To: John Brier <johnbrier@?????.???> Cc:
Work-Sat@??????.??? AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FM
Birds, New Grids, and Chaos Those are good suggestions. I try to write down
calls and grid squares by ?reading the mail? on other QSO?s. Then I call
that specific station. I rarely (if ever) just throw out my call. Sometimes
when I?m up late at night I?ll do that, or even call CQ but only when the
bird is dead quiet. I?ve got a TH-D72A, and an ELK antenna configured for
portable operation. Just waiting on warm and dry days to give it a try from
the backyard. This winter has been one of the wettest on record here. Do
wish more operators would be more considerate when the bird is busy. My
?wish list? would include: Make one QSO, then just monitor the rest of the
pass?unless someone calls you. Check Twitter to see if anyone is activating
a rare grid. If so, let th
 em control the flow of contacts on the bird. This is especially true of
Western grids. Often the pass is very short for those grids, and stations in
the East have a limited time to work them. But the bird is often filled with
Eastern stations working other Eastern stations during the whole pass.
Resist turning up the power to ?muscle? your way in. During one pass earlier
this evening, I listened to a single QRO station make 5 or 6 contacts during
a very crowded pass?simply by muscling other stations, talking over other
operators, etc. We clearly need more FM birds because the demand is very
high. Meanwhile a lot of the linear satellites are empty or nearly so.
73,Les Rayburn, N1LFMaylene, AL EM63nfAMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:44:38 -0500
From: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
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The NO-84 Digipeater on 145.825 Mhz is on as of 2019-02-16 22:14:55 UTC.
Enjoy it while its on. The Digipeater will be on as the power budget
permits I presume. http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1

73 Nick KE8AKW


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 18:46:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Bankston <ke4al@?????.???>
To: K5ZM <k5zm@???????.???>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] TH D72, Heil HTH-K, and recording Qs
Message-ID: <1526432801.567155.1550429160889@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Ian,
For TX, I just use the built-in D72 mic/ptt.
On the RX side, I have a 2.5mm right angle plug to 3.5mm jack, similar to
https://www.amazon.com/Inovat-Headphone-Converter-Adapter-Right/dp/B01KOJAJKW.
Using a softcase, i run the cable under the side and top securing straps.
A 3.5mm audio splitter plugs into that cable.? One for recorder and one for
headphones/earbuds.
https://www.amazon.com/Headset-headsets-separate-headphone-microphone/dp/B004S
P0WAQ
Works great for me.

73, Robert Bankston, KE4AL
Twitter:? @??????????????????? KE4AL.wordpress.com

    On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 12:47:22 AM CST, K5ZM <k5zm@???????.???>
wrote:

 Hi all.



After having been licensed since '75, I'm finally dusting off my interest in
sat work! I've got a Kenwood D72 paired with a short Arrow II. I also picked
up a Heil boom mic HT headset for the Kenwood HTs -but now wonder if that
part will actually end up complicating my efforts to record my Qs. The
connector on the end of the headset is a two-pronged arrangement (think
'mini eggbeater') that uses both mic and speaker connections on the side of
the D72. If I want to go forward with this headset, it's obvious I'll need
to either fab something up or acquire a specialized patch cord, a Y cable,
etc.



If it comes to it, I can live without the headset and just use headphones in
the event that makes life easier. Would like to hear what other ops are
doing in this regard.



Tnx es 73



Ian, K5ZM

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:41:26 +0200
From: Apostolos Kefalas <sv1ljj@????.???>
To: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Cc: g0kla <g0kla@????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] PACSAT/Falconsat-3 telemetry decoder
Message-ID: <1550418086.6059.2.camel@????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hello,

I am trying to run the new Telemetry Decoder for Falconsat-3 on Linux,
but it refuses to start when run as a normal user.

Only way to start it, is as super-user (root). Has anyone else this
problem?

Has anyone tried to compile PacSatGround under Linux? Do you have any
advice?

I get more than a 100 times ".... error: package com.g0kla.telem.gui
does not exist" and it stops there.


73 de SV1LJJ
Apostolos







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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:53:14 -0500
From: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID:
<CAGu+VYsT03rJThwnhPQAr3TbpnM1XFUr3XwvvwerDm1w3jf4ew@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Also forget to mention don't forget about the PSK31 Transponder also. It is
always on 24/7 as it is the primary mission. It is very easily worked with
just a simple 10m Dipole/Vertical and a directional 70 cm satellite antenna
so mostly anyone should be able to work it. It downlinks on 435.350 FM and
you uplink on 28.120 USB PSK31. You then use a program like FLdigi to
decode the downlink as FLdigi has the ability to decode multiple PSK31
signals. Most importantly you must download a program called DopplerPSK as
this is what you will be transmitting with. It automatically corrects the
doppler on your uplink signal so others are able to decode your signal,
otherwise it will just be a giant slant across the waterfall unable to be
decoded.  Currently there is only a small hand full of people working it. I
would like to see more activity on it as it is good fun to work!

73 Nick KE8AKW


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:55:14 -0600
From: Joe <nss@???.???>
To: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID: <bfd510f2-b3ff-39b8-c50b-1f32c83438a0@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

What's the story about this?

Is She Dying?

I was planning on getting back active on that 10/70 cm coolness!

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 2/17/2019 12:44 PM, Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW wrote:
> The NO-84 Digipeater on 145.825 Mhz is on as of 2019-02-16 22:14:55 UTC.
> Enjoy it while its on. The Digipeater will be on as the power budget
> permits I presume. http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1
>
> 73 Nick KE8AKW
> _______________________________________________
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>



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:58:53 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID: <f768b54e39249bdfc6a556878083abb6@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

PSAT only has a 300 mW transmitter and so is much weaker than other
similar sateliltes.  And since it puts all its energy into its PSK31 Ten
meter to UHF downlink transponder, it shuts off the digipeater when power
is low.  And that happens every month or so.

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:55 PM
To: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>; amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online

What's the story about this?

Is She Dying?

I was planning on getting back active on that 10/70 cm coolness!

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 2/17/2019 12:44 PM, Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW wrote:
> The NO-84 Digipeater on 145.825 Mhz is on as of 2019-02-16 22:14:55 UTC.
> Enjoy it while its on. The Digipeater will be on as the power budget
> permits I presume. http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1
>
> 73 Nick KE8AKW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
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program!
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>

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:00:42 -0600
From: Joe <nss@???.???>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>, amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID: <df62b158-527e-9eb2-b39a-7457cbe3f922@???.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

OK was scared for a bit there was gonna try to get some locals interested.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 2/17/2019 12:58 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> PSAT only has a 300 mW transmitter and so is much weaker than other
> similar sateliltes.  And since it puts all its energy into its PSK31 Ten
> meter to UHF downlink transponder, it shuts off the digipeater when power
> is low.  And that happens every month or so.
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:55 PM
> To: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>; amsat-bb@?????.???
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
>
> What's the story about this?
>
> Is She Dying?
>
> I was planning on getting back active on that 10/70 cm coolness!
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 2/17/2019 12:44 PM, Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW wrote:
>> The NO-84 Digipeater on 145.825 Mhz is on as of 2019-02-16 22:14:55 UTC.
>> Enjoy it while its on. The Digipeater will be on as the power budget
>> permits I presume. http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1
>>
>> 73 Nick KE8AKW
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@?????.???. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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>>
>>
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> all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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>



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:02:26 -0500
From: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID:
<CAGu+VYuvd=+05Qy-zF8hmC3SHYyfOdEpUTb4mU+iSg3o5GSo_w@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Joe,
As far as I am aware NO-84 is just fine. Its just that it cannot always
support having the Digipeater on 24/7 (It depends on battery conditions and
amount of time in sunlight). So the digipeater is commanded on as it
permits by the control operators. The PSK31 transponder is always on
regardless of conditions. Hope to see you on PSK31!


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:03:34 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID: <8c3f9b0b65cdd684233a65c11a12ce31@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

The special Doppler shifting uplink software is highly recommended, but is
not absolutely required.  On high elevation passes when the satellite is
coming directly at you then the approaching Doppler *change* will be
minimal, and also the change will be minimal as it leaves you.  That gives
a few minutes for others to see you with little Doppler.

But your *change* in Doppler will be highest in the middle of your pass,
and no one will decode you then. (unless you are using the Doppler
correcting uplink code).
See http://aprs.org/psat.html

Bob, Wb4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb-bounces@?????.???> On Behalf Of Nicholas Mahr
KE8AKW
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:53 PM
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online

Also forget to mention don't forget about the PSK31 Transponder also. It
is always on 24/7 as it is the primary mission. It is very easily worked
with just a simple 10m Dipole/Vertical and a directional 70 cm satellite
antenna so mostly anyone should be able to work it. It downlinks on
435.350 FM and you uplink on 28.120 USB PSK31. You then use a program like
FLdigi to decode the downlink as FLdigi has the ability to decode multiple
PSK31 signals. Most importantly you must download a program called
DopplerPSK as this is what you will be transmitting with. It automatically
corrects the doppler on your uplink signal so others are able to decode
your signal, otherwise it will just be a giant slant across the waterfall
unable to be decoded.  Currently there is only a small hand full of people
working it. I would like to see more activity on it as it is good fun to
work!

73 Nick KE8AKW
_______________________________________________
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all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 13:05:25 -0600
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID: <f13e8bb4-bdf0-6fde-1134-e94f803b3d3e@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 02/17/19 13:00, Joe wrote:
> OK was scared for a bit there was gonna try to get some locals interested.

I would think that, in general, you should always enjoy all the
satellites while they last. Never know when TID or a component failure
will take one of them out. Additionally, they're LEO, so atmospheric
drag is slowly, but steadily, bringing them back to Earth.

"Work 'em while you can." applies in any case. :-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO



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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:54:48 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOqU2uOPrDJEEaJm2w441F0boeZMx0u_hGE-Br4wgEc2ZQ@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Speaking of decay, DK3WN lists 2021-10-31 as the estimated decay date for
NO-84.

Originally, it was expected to have a 3 year life if I remember right. It
will apparently make it nearly 6.5.

http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?page_id=43437

73,

Paul, N8HM

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
Date: Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 14:10
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>


On 02/17/19 13:00, Joe wrote:
> OK was scared for a bit there was gonna try to get some locals interested.

I would think that, in general, you should always enjoy all the
satellites while they last. Never know when TID or a component failure
will take one of them out. Additionally, they're LEO, so atmospheric
drag is slowly, but steadily, bringing them back to Earth.

"Work 'em while you can." applies in any case. :-)

--- Zach
N0ZGO

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:14:34 -0800
From: Bob Keating <bkeating1954@?????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lost recording AO-91
Message-ID: <1164cf6f-8304-71dc-99e7-dcb5f34ad289@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I had a great pass? on AO-91 this morning (2-17-2019) at 19:06 UTC,
contacting W4BCX in Florida and Patrick WD9EWK on DM12/22 in addition to
a couple of other stations with my HT and Arrow II handheld antenna,
only to discover that I did not get it recorded on my TASCAM recorder. I
went to the SATNOGS website and found the only recording by N5CNB was
very noisy. I could only make out my QSO with W4BCX and barely could
hear my contact with Patrick. Does anyone have a recording of that pass
or is there likely to be another upload to the SATNOGS site? I know I
missed some good grid squares out there. Thanks a bunch.

73,

Bob N6REK



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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 15:18:11 -0500
From: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84 Digipeater Online
Message-ID:
<CAGu+VYvropqXc2GyKGSwvsjhcTT7cA-xMUq37SO7yBZd0NfE0Q@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Robert,
I remember reading somewhere that PSAT-2 and Bricsat-2, the replacements
for PSAT and Bricsat, are going up here very soon possibly year. Would I be
correct?


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