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Today's Topics:

   1. agw_onlinekiss_plus.exe on Linux with Wine (Hans BX2ABT)
   2. WRC-23 Agenda Items may impact 144 MHz and 1240 MHz bands (M5AKA)
   3. Re: NO84 in safe mode (Zach Metzinger)
   4. Re: NO84 in safe mode (Ryan Noguchi)
   5. Re: agw_onlinekiss_plus.exe on Linux with Wine
      (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
   6. KI7UNJ ROVE - DN13/14/21/22/23/24/32/33 - June 14th -	18th
      (KI7UNJ Tucker)
   7. OUTERnet becomes OTHERnet (APRS geo feed) (Robert Bruninga)
   8. Re: OUTERnet becomes OTHERnet (APRS geo feed) (JoAnne K9JKM)
   9. Re: NO84 in safe mode (Phil)
  10. Launch weight (mass) of Phase 3-E (Express)? (Gregory Beat)
  11. Launch weight (mass) of Phase 3-E (Express)?
      (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
  12. Re: Launch weight (mass) of Phase 3-E (Express)? (Paul Stoetzer)
  13. Upcoming ARISS contact with Peninsula Grammar, Melbourne,
      Australia (n4csitwo@?????????.????


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 23:15:43 +0800
From: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] agw_onlinekiss_plus.exe on Linux with Wine
Message-ID: <3ca9c325-f2b6-2ebf-656c-58c33190faa9@???.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Banging my head against the wall right now. Help me!!!!

Have been trying to get DK3WN's software to work on my Linux systems.
The decoders start up, only AGW Onlinekiss Plus refuses to start. Using
a win32 setup on a 64 bit Linux install. VB6run is installed with
winetricks, all the OCX requirements are met. When running "$wine
agw_onlinekiss_plus.exe I get a "Runtime error '9' Subscript out of
range" error screen. The command line doesn't give me any hints on what
might be wrong. And to be complete: different computers, different
Kubuntu versions, still the same error message.

What is the problem here and more important, what is the solution?
Anyone....please........

Cheers and 73

Hans

BX2ABT




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 15:29:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@?????.??.??>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WRC-23 Agenda Items may impact 144 MHz and 1240
MHz bands
Message-ID: <890791443.2371326.1560266942839@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

ARISS contact planned for Rowan Preparatory School UK on Tuesday, June 18 at
1251 GMT?
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/06/11/ariss-contact-planned-for-rowan-preparatory-sc
hool-uk/

WRC-23 Agenda Items may impact 144 MHz and 1240 MHz bands
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/06/11/wrc-23-agenda-items-144-1240-mhz-bands/

1240-1300 MHz band discussed by CEPT WGFM and CPG/PTA
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/05/31/1240-1300-mhz-band-discussed-by-cept-wgfm-and-
cpg-pta/

CubeSat Developers Workshop ? talks now available
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/06/06/cubesat-developers-workshop-talks-now-availabl
e/

AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2019 Second Call for Speakers
https://amsat-uk.org/2019/06/09/colloquium-2nd-call-for-speakers/

Trevor M5AKA
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Twitter?https://twitter.com/AmsatUK
Facebook?https://facebook.com/AmsatUK
YouTube?https://youtube.com/AmsatUK
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:15:14 -0500
From: Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO84 in safe mode
Message-ID: <be3e9032-1215-33da-ac28-e1a5d70756cd@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 2019-06-11 00:00, Phil via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Thank you Ryan and Scott for your replies. I'm surprised that the RSP1
> is more sensitive than the FT-817, which I bought when they first became
> available.
>
> I've been away from Amateur Radio for quite some time and I feel that
> advances in the field are passing me by.

Phil-

There is much information available to catch up on recent (and not so
recent) advances. The author of Linrad has done some dynamic range
comparisons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbSa1G14Nig

Note that a receiver that is too sensitive may be easily overloaded by a
strong signal, requiring an attenuator proceeding it and resulting in an
increase in noise figure.

A less sensitive receiver that performs better on the "top end" when
strong signals are present can be helped out with a switchable LNA at
the antenna. Which is, of course, where the LNA should be to set the
system noise figure. No strong signals and you need some more
sensitivity, switch on the LNA.

https://youtu.be/_-AkINSPkhw?t=505

--- Zach
N0ZGO




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 18:13:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: Ryan Noguchi <ai6do@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO84 in safe mode
Message-ID: <1385545789.1261793.1560276780491@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 To be fair, my experience is only with the RSP1A, which is two years (two
generations!) newer than the RSP1 that Scott uses.?If you're looking to
inexpensively add a receiver to a transmitting radio for a full duplex
satellite system, the $120 RSP1A is a very serviceable option and much
cheaper than a transceiver. I don't think the RSP1 is available new any
longer.?

You're right in that in certain portions of amateur radio, the equipment is
evolving very quickly; in other areas, very glacially. I bought a new
FT-818ND last year, which is not really a substantive improvement over the
FT-817ND, which has been around for fifteen years. I use it exclusively as a
transmitter for linear satellite work, and it works well in that role, as
would your FT-817.?


73, Ryan AI6DO


    On Tuesday, June 11, 2019, 6:29:05 AM PDT, Phil via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

 On 11/6/19 12:44 pm, Ryan Noguchi via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>? In my uncalibrated-ear testing with an A/B switch on satellite downlinks,
I found my RSP1A is noticeably more sensitive (with HDSDR driving it) than
the FT-857D, FT-818ND,

Thank you Ryan and Scott for your replies. I'm surprised that the RSP1
is more sensitive than the FT-817, which I bought when they first became
available.

I've been away from Amateur Radio for quite some time and I feel that
advances in the field are passing me by.

--

Regards,
Phil


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 21:19:04 +0200
From: PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat@?????.??>
To: Hans BX2ABT <hans.bx2abt@???.?????.???>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] agw_onlinekiss_plus.exe on Linux with Wine
Message-ID: <8bbbee2b60126f197c3923cc435dca0d@?????.??>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed



On 11-06-2019 17:15, Hans BX2ABT via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Banging my head against the wall right now. Help me!!!!

Hi Hans,

Please stop banging and have a look at:

https://twitter.com/pe0sat/status/1082004410258071552

>
> Have been trying to get DK3WN's software to work on my Linux systems.
> The decoders start up, only AGW Onlinekiss Plus refuses to start.
> Using a win32 setup on a 64 bit Linux install. VB6run is installed
> with winetricks, all the OCX requirements are met. When running "$wine
> agw_onlinekiss_plus.exe I get a "Runtime error '9' Subscript out of
> range" error screen. The command line doesn't give me any hints on
> what might be wrong. And to be complete: different computers,
> different Kubuntu versions, still the same error message.
>
> What is the problem here and more important, what is the solution?
> Anyone....please........
>
> Cheers and 73
>
> Hans
>
> BX2ABT

73 Jan


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With regards PE0SAT
Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
DK3WN SatBlog http://satblog.dk3wn.info/
Online Telemetry Forwarder: https://db.satnogs.org/stats/
irc://chat.freenode.net #Cubesat - Twitter @??????


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 12:37:47 -0700
From: KI7UNJ Tucker <ki7unj@?????.???>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] KI7UNJ ROVE - DN13/14/21/22/23/24/32/33 - June
14th -	18th
Message-ID:
<CAPFr_Um0SKG9GnC=zwb=c+qZU0BeSDjyziBz8_Xew=4mUj8qWw@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Good Afternoon,

I will be head to Twin Falls ID  (DN22) for a few days and be doing some
roving.   Chances for some random night time (MST) passes from DN22 will
post on twitter beforehand.


   - Track me  via APRS  https://aprs.fi/ki7unj-9
   - Rove Updates  https://twitter.com/ki7unj
   - Logging to LOTW as KI7UNJ    * (NO / anything)*
   - FM only


Friday 14th - DN13/DN14
1702Z     AO-92
1754Z     AO-91
1808Z     SO-50

Saturday 15th - DN22/21
1642Z     AO-92
1814Z     AO-91
1830Z     SO-50

Sunday 16th - DN22/DN32
1835Z     AO-91
1855Z     SO-50

Monday 17th - DN23/DN33
1723Z     AO-91
1732Z     AO-92

Tuesday 18th - DN24 (maybe DN14/DN24)
1711Z      AO-92
1744Z      AO-91
1805Z      SO-50




--


Casey Tucker  KI7UNJ
https://twitter.com/KI7UNJ
https://www.qrz.com/db/KI7UNJ
http://bit.do/ki7unj
<https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bit.do/ki7unj&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=15
21073499558000&usg=AFQjCNFcQLn6C9nmmvpQiBbD6XvN-QjKug>


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:50:24 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@????.???>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OUTERnet becomes OTHERnet (APRS geo feed)
Message-ID: <61aca90430bae376b33a6df1f09ebf10@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Since about 2 years ago, the APRS satellite ground station captures have
been made available worldwide via three GEO satellites for reception
anywhere on earth.

But I recently found that the OUTERnet system has changed to a new GEO
satellite constellation and no longer uses INMARSAT L band satellites but
is now using a KA band downlink over the USA.  And that they are now
selling a new receiver kit for this satellite.

Has anyone kept up with them?
Here is my original WEB page but with the  links changed from OUTnet to
OTHERnet:
http://aprs.org/othernet.html

If anyone has one of their receivers or is receiving the downlink and/or
wants to help me get my web page all cleaned up to what has changed over
the last two years, let me know.

This is a powerful capability.  I hope we can keep it working.

Bob, Wb4APR


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 16:00:22 -0500
From: "JoAnne K9JKM" <joanne.k9jkm@?????.???>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@?????.???>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] OUTERnet becomes OTHERnet (APRS geo feed)
Message-ID: <5d001664.1c69fb81.6b050.7902@??.??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

The $49 price for the Dreamcatcher SDR-type receiver that OtherNet was
peddling says it is sold out. I got mine for that price a few months ago but
I haven't had time to burn the SD card (ala raspberry pi) and fire it up.

See: https://othernet.is/ and
https://othernet.is/products/dreamcatcher-3-0

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@?????.???




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2019 07:08:54 +1000
From: Phil <phillor9@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO84 in safe mode
Message-ID: <2515da40-bf05-8d45-9456-19005c8abc55@?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On 12/6/19 3:15 am, Zach Metzinger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> There is much information available to catch up on recent (and not so
> recent) advances.

Thank you Zach and Ryan,

I've recently renewed my interest in computer programming after
practically no activity for the past 15 years; Amateur Radio is in the
same boat. So much to catch up on and so little time left to do so.

I sold my FT-817 20 years ago because I wasn't making much use of it and
bought an FT-847. AO-40 really had me excited for a couple of years but
after its demise I slowly lost interest and the radio hasn't seen the
light of day for a long time.

--

Regards,
Phil



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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 17:31:38 -0500
From: Gregory Beat <w9gb@??????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Launch weight (mass) of Phase 3-E (Express)?
Message-ID: <90A48983-34B4-4879-BA2A-08F62C23AC52@??????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I understand that the Phase 3E spacecraft frame is currently in Germany
(AMSAT-DL).
https://amsat-dl.org/en/amsat-phase-3-e-express/

What was the planned launch weight of P-3E?  (preferably weight without 400N
kick motor).

greg
w9gb

Sent from iPad Air

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:08:32 -0400
From: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>
To: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: [amsat-bb] Launch weight (mass) of Phase 3-E (Express)?
Message-ID:
<CAGu+VYvNDmc86qCe17r5+X0TksGQxm7egYzNd9VZKjQOSCn9cA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Hi Greg,
That is hard to say exactly for sure as it actually has not been done yet.
Maybe somebody else out there knows? I do know AO-10/13 was around 140kg at
launch with fuel and is 90kg without fuel. So it would be significantly
less as the fuel does weigh a lot (50kg?). Also a quick search shows that a
400N motor weights around 9.5 pounds, so minus that.Unfortunately that
launch opportunity for the direct launch to a Molniya  type orbit was
scrapped. Hopefully AMSAT find some sort of a affordable launch opportunity
for it here soon in the up coming years. It is difficult enough now a days
just to get a 1-2kg cubesat into LEO unfortunately.

73 - Nick KE8AKW


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:27:45 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@????.???>
To: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@?????.???>
Cc: amsat-bb@?????.???
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Launch weight (mass) of Phase 3-E (Express)?
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOpJrLG=+AR4YrO_5XT7w5Di9YYx1JcU-T6We_SffmFAiA@????.?????.???>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Keep in mind that it?s not just the $10-$15 million estimated launch cost
that is an obstacle. A molniya orbit passes through the GPS belt altitude
and potentially through both the protected LEO and GEO altitudes depending
on perigee/apogee of the orbit. A future HEO will need an orbital debris
mitigation plan acceptable to the government the satellite is licensed by.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 19:08 Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@?????.???> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
> That is hard to say exactly for sure as it actually has not been done yet.
> Maybe somebody else out there knows? I do know AO-10/13 was around 140kg at
> launch with fuel and is 90kg without fuel. So it would be significantly
> less as the fuel does weigh a lot (50kg?). Also a quick search shows that a
> 400N motor weights around 9.5 pounds, so minus that.Unfortunately that
> launch opportunity for the direct launch to a Molniya  type orbit was
> scrapped. Hopefully AMSAT find some sort of a affordable launch opportunity
> for it here soon in the up coming years. It is difficult enough now a days
> just to get a 1-2kg cubesat into LEO unfortunately.
>
> 73 - Nick KE8AKW
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2019 22:26:01 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@?????????.???>
To: <amsat-bb@?????.???>,	<ariss-press@?????.???>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Peninsula Grammar,
Melbourne,	Australia
Message-ID: <3382CC6198B94ECD9932BA0A629EBB59@???>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at Peninsula Grammar, Melbourne, Australia on 13 June. The
event is scheduled to begin at approximately 11:10 UTC. It is recommended
that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The
duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK4KHZ. The contact should be
audible over portions of Australia and adjacent areas. Interested parties
are invited to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected
to be conducted in English.





Peninsula Grammar is a day and boarding school for approximately 1400
students from three-year-old Kindergarten to Year 12. At Peninsula Grammar
we see learning not just as a path to university and a career, but also as a
path to wellbeing. The books we read, the science we absorb, the languages
we learn, the artistic, sporting and musical skills we acquire are the tools
that enable us to fulfil our potential.







Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:



1. Although you are in quarantine before going to space, if someone was to

   get sick or injured in space, is there always a qualified first aid person

   when it happens?

2. How long will it take to recover and will you miss the space station when

   you come down?

3. What is your favourite thing to do in space?

4. What was your first thought during lift off when you travelled to the

   space station?

5. What kind of science experiments are you doing?

6. Why did you choose to be an astronaut?

7. How do you use the Internet on board the space station?

8. When you were first selected to go to the ISS in 2013, were you thinking

   about how much your research might affect the future on Earth and did that

   help you cope with leaving your family behind, getting into a space craft

   with people you don't really know and possibly risking your life?

9. What training did you do to become an astronaut?

10. Have you ever had a major issue with any of the technology on board the

    space station?

11. What is currently being done to try to help your life in space become

    easier?

12. How has your understanding of the universe changed now that you have
seen it from space?

13. What do you miss most about Earth?

14. Can you have baths or showers in space?

15. Did the air force help you with what you are doing in space now?







PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:



      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the
International Space Station (ARISS).



      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @????????????







Next planned event(s):

   1.  Smithsonian Air and Space - Udvar-Hazy, Chantilly, VA, USA,

       telebridge via W6SRJ

       The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS

       The scheduled astronaut is Nick Hague KG5TMV

       Contact is go for: Sat 2019-06-15 18:11:51 UTC



   2. Rowan Preparatory School, Claygate, United Kingdom,

      direct via GB4RPS

      The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS

      The scheduled astronaut is Nick Hague KG5TMV

      Contact is go for: Tue 2019-06-18 12:51:20 UTC

      Watch for live stream at https://live.ariss.org/



   3. King Island District High School, Currie, TAS, Australia,

      telebridge via IK1SLD

      The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS

      The scheduled astronaut is David St-Jacques KG5FYI

      Contact is go for: Wed 2019-06-19 08:49:20 UTC







About ARISS



Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a cooperative
venture of international amateur radio societies and the space agencies that
support the International Space Station (ISS).  In the United States,
sponsors are the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT), the American
Radio Relay League (ARRL), the ISS National Lab and National Aeronautics and
Space Administration (NASA). The primary goal of ARISS is to promote
exploration of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM)
topics by organizing scheduled contacts via amateur radio between crew
members aboard the ISS and students in classrooms or public forms. Before
and during these radio contacts, students, educators, parents, and
communities learn about space, space technologies, and amateur radio. For
more information, see www.ariss.org.



Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN


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